4/4/2022

Poker Quads Over Quads

Sean Chaffin

It’s the hand that put you over the top. Or the two cards you held that time you were rivered for a monster pot. Everyone has “the hand,” that one that you remember no matter how many more tournaments or cash games played. PokerNews takes a look at those hands that stick with players and relive the glory, or misery, depending on the results.

Comedian Norm Macdonald made his way to the Rio on Sunday and was playing in a few sit 'n' go tournaments in the Pavilion after busting in the Monster Stack. The actor, writer, and comedian is a regular poker player and in town to play some events at the WSOP. Macdonald will also perform at the South Point Showroom from June 29 to July 1.

A veteran comedian, many may remember him as the host of Weekend Update on “Saturday Night Live” from 1996-98 as well as his impressions of Burt Reynolds, David Letterman and Larry King. Netflix also recently announced Macdonald had been signed for a 10-episode talk show called “Norm Macdonald Has a Show.

Quads over Quads Jackpot - Quads over Quads beaten by a higher hand - Both the winning and losing player’s hole cards must play. The Bad Beat Jackpot will be distributed amongst the table with 40% going to the losing hand, 20% going to the winning hand and 40% being divided between the remaining players. Well, the odds for that are pretty slim: With two players holding a pocket pair both will hit quads by the river roughly once every 39,000 attempts.

When it came to the hand Macdonald remembers, his definitely tiled to the misery side.

Poker Quads Over Quads

Quads Over Quads

When asked about a hand he can’t forget, one night at the Mirage came instantly to mind. He was playing in a $40/$80 limit hold’em cash game with a woman he regularly played with. In one hand, he was dealt pocket queens and the two got tangled up in a monster pot.

“The betting got crazy at the end, but she had mercy on me and let me off the hook.”

“She was dealt pocket kings, and I flopped quads,” he says.

Macdonald looked to be in great shape, but then there was a pretty sick runout on the table as they kept betting.

“Then she turned and rivered quad kings,” he says. “The betting got crazy at the end, but she had mercy on me and let me off the hook.”

At the end, Macdonald believes there were 12 bets back and forth between the two with no capped number of river raises. By the time it was over, the pot swelled to $6,600 and Macdonald came out on the short end of a massive cooler. To make things worse, unfortunately there wasn’t a bad beat jackpot.

“There should have been right?” he says laughing. “That would have been way better.”

Bad Beat Jackpot?

While there wasn’t a bad beat jackpot on that hand, Macdonald does remember a time he won something for a bad beat, thought it wasn’t quite what he expected.

“I did win a bad beat jackpot once at the Mohegan Sun, and they came back with a jacket,” he says. “I still have the jacket, but I would rather have had some money.”

“I still have the jacket, but I would rather have had some money.”

Macdonald has career tournament winnings of more than $44,000 with his best cash at the WSOP coming in 2013 in a $3,000 No-Limit Hold'em. He finished 20th for $14,608. Before Black Friday, Macdonald admits that he was a regular online player – playing as many as 20 limit hold’em games at once.

“Since they went offline, it kind of saved my life,” he says. “Because I was just grinding out and couldn’t even sleep. The good thing about [playing online] was it was just fold, fold, fold fold, fold – it was all ABC poker.”

This summer, the comedian plans to play as many as five events as well as the Main Event. When PokerNews caught up with him, Macdonald had busted the Monster Stack and had won a sit 'n' go. He then finished runner-up in another sit 'n' go after deciding against a deal for the money when heads-up. He was a little frustrated afterward and had a pang of regret.

“I should have taken that deal,” he said. Ever the poker player, however, Macdonald had a reason for playing on, noting: “I really wanted to practice playing heads-up.”

Sean Chaffin is a freelance writer in Crandall, Texas. His work appears in numerous websites and publications. Follow him on Twitter @PokerTraditions. He is also the host of the True Gambling Stories podcast, available on iTunes, Google Play, TuneIn Radio, Spotify, Stitcher, PokerNews.com, HoldemRadio.com, and TrueGamblingStories.com.

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Quads – Four cards of the same rank, frequently referred to as “four of a kind.”Quads
Poker hands can be ranked in strength from the weakest hand, seven high, to the strongest, a royal flush. Near the top of these rankings, just below a royal flush, and above a full house, is four of a kind, which is also known as “quads.” There are thirteen different cards in the deck for each of the four suits, making thirteen different possible ways to make quads. The four of a kind hands are ranked in strength from quad deuces at the bottom to quad aces at the top.
Quads is a rare and powerful hand to make. When you make quads, you will almost always win the pot regardless of what your opponents make. It is rare enough to hold quads that your opponent may not give you credit when you represent it, especially if they themselves are holding a strong hand, like a full house. If you make quads at the same time that one or more of your opponents also has a strong holding, you may win a very large pot. If you sense that your opponent has a strong holding when you have quads, you probably shouldn’t slowplay the hand, or get too fancy with the betting, or you will likely miss an opportunity to get as many bets as possible into the pot. Save your slowplays for times when it will be harder to get paid off, because you need your opponent to catch up.

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On rare occasions, when you have made quads, your opponent may also make a stronger four of a kind or a straight flush. Because it is so rare to lose with quads, this is referred to as a “bad beat.” This can be a wonderful thing, because if the poker room you are playing in offers a bad beat jackpot, this type of bad beat may trigger it, if other conditions are also met. If you take a bad beat which triggers the bad beat jackpot, you stand to win a substantial amount of money, often several thousand dollars. For this reason, poker jackpots have become very popular among players, especially those who have been fortunate enough to participate in them.
In addition to bad beat jackpot, poker rooms frequently offer other promotions which incentivize play. One frequently used promotion id the Monte Carlo board. The Monte Carlo board usually posts every way to make quads and every way to make a straight flush. Next to each possible hand, a corresponding cash bonus is listed. If you make quads or a straight flush, you win the amount posted next to your hand. Each amount is progressive and will increase daily until capped or hit, at which point it will be reset at the minimum amount. Because of statistical variations, some Monte Carlo board hands will go long periods without being hit, while other may hit multiple times in the same day. This promotion can be offered in lieu of a bad beat jackpot or in addition to it, but the funding for it is typically player generated, and taken from the jackpot drop.
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